josh
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Post by josh on Nov 7, 2008 19:24:14 GMT -5
Overall, I had a discussion with my friends in school a few days ago an I thought Superman although I hate him with a passion. They all aid Batman but I think it's because of the Dark Knight came out but My one friend brought up good points as too why he is. So what'ya guys think?
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Post by J.J. on Nov 7, 2008 19:53:58 GMT -5
Batmans story and character and rogues gallery are the better, but that's not to say Superman is a chump, In the right hands, Superman stories can be just as well thought out and deep as a some of the best Batman stories.
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Post by Martin St. Louis on Nov 7, 2008 20:05:39 GMT -5
Batman, definitely. Superman has his moments though. PS - Welcome
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Post by Benjamin on Nov 7, 2008 20:08:37 GMT -5
Are we merely talking about Batman and Superman or comic characters in general? If we're going with Batman and Superman than I have to easily choose Batman. I've never understood why Superman is as popular as he is because I absolutely hate the character. The only good thing to come out of Superman was Bill's speech about Clark Kent being his costume in Kill Bill.
If we're talking comics overall I have to go with Magneto, but I'm probably biased.
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Post by Steve on Nov 7, 2008 20:41:54 GMT -5
Batman, Batman and Batman. I don't think another hero even comes close.
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Post by J.J. on Nov 7, 2008 20:44:47 GMT -5
Superman is a hero of times gone past. Back when he was created, he was a brilliant hero that made a fairly depressed country feel good. An invincible man that was all America, all the time.
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Post by Nick on Nov 7, 2008 20:55:23 GMT -5
I always leaned toward Batman. Superman was never much of a problem solver. If a problem arose, he punched a hole through it, end of story. A big part of Batman is the Master Detective moniker. Sure, he'll use brute force if he has to, but more often than not he uses his head. He even created a backup plan in case any of the Justice League went rogue, and he had to take them down.
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josh
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Post by josh on Nov 7, 2008 21:03:31 GMT -5
No it's between like any character I don't mean who you like better. I mean what character is the ''strongest'' per say and would beat pretty much anyone..
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Post by J.J. on Nov 7, 2008 21:06:21 GMT -5
Iceman would kill 'em all
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josh
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Post by josh on Nov 7, 2008 21:15:20 GMT -5
Thats why I thought Superman. Thought I hate him.
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Post by Benjamin on Nov 7, 2008 21:21:07 GMT -5
Superman is 'stronger', but in the mythos of the characters Superman has given Batman a piece of kryptonite so that if something ever happens and he turns evil Batman can stop him. If for that one reason alone Batman is superior to Superman.
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Post by J.J. on Nov 7, 2008 21:31:33 GMT -5
Dr. Manhattan If it were just straight up fisticuffs, you couldn't beat Superman, but there are so many technicalities to everyones powers that nobody can not be beaten.
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Post by Steve on Nov 7, 2008 21:37:14 GMT -5
If it were just straight up fisticuffs, you couldn't beat Superman, but there are so many technicalities to everyones powers that nobody can not be beaten.Tell that to Uncle Ben
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Post by J.J. on Nov 7, 2008 21:42:48 GMT -5
Uncle Ben was a Navy Seal I bet
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Post by internet savvy axl rose on Nov 11, 2008 0:26:08 GMT -5
I have always leaned towards the more vigilante based "super heroes" and those with more human elements to their character. I always found superman kinda boring, but to be honest with you, was never a big superman reader.
My favorite superhero was always Daredevil.
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Post by internet savvy axl rose on Nov 11, 2008 11:41:49 GMT -5
PS, I've been looking all over for a size large daredevil logo "DD" shirt, and I can't fucking find it anywhere.
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Post by Benjamin on Nov 11, 2008 12:11:41 GMT -5
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Post by internet savvy axl rose on Nov 11, 2008 14:23:16 GMT -5
Shit, i miss being a fatass.... 2xl shirts were easy as sin to find, and small is always in stock everywhere, but Large is like the hardest size to find.... I've found large in shirts, and 34-36 waist in pants seem to be impossible to find more often than not.
Better off being emaciated, or obese.
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Post by Lisa on Nov 11, 2008 14:31:09 GMT -5
Better off being emaciated, or obese. This is true. Once I went down to a smaller size, I can't find a decent pair of jeans anywhere in this city, they're all fucking bootcut and with short legs, they look bad.
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Post by Remton Davis on Nov 24, 2008 15:19:14 GMT -5
Batman is by far the better overall character. Superman just had way too many powers and too few weaknesses.
Batman is a far more complex, pragmatic character with hella better villains, and with a tendency to think the problems through instead of just hurling an automobile over his head.
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Post by Chase on Nov 24, 2008 16:47:58 GMT -5
Supes is just too powerful for his own good. They keep him human-er with arbitrary devices... Err... arbitrary-er devices. What I'm saying is Batman's humanity makes him a more interesting character. It allows writers to handle him in a way that evokes things and stuffs.
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I sympathize a lot with Dr. Kenzou Tenma (Urasawa's Monster) as he experiences personal and professional tragedies related to saving the life of a boy; Motoko Kusanagi and the Tachikoma's (Ghost in the Shell) struggle with humanity and memories; and, Elijah Ballard's (Endo's Eden) struggle with what the world has left him.
Okay, the Ghost in the Shell manga is little like the anime (the manga is much more light-hearted), but I'm counting it.
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Post by Remton Davis on Jan 16, 2009 21:39:56 GMT -5
Supes is just too powerful for his own good. They keep him human-er with arbitrary devices... Err... arbitrary-er devices. What I'm saying is Batman's humanity makes him a more interesting character. It allows writers to handle him in a way that evokes things and stuffs. --- I sympathize a lot with Dr. Kenzou Tenma (Urasawa's Monster) as he experiences personal and professional tragedies related to saving the life of a boy; Motoko Kusanagi and the Tachikoma's (Ghost in the Shell) struggle with humanity and memories; and, Elijah Ballard's (Endo's Eden) struggle with what the world has left him. Okay, the Ghost in the Shell manga is little like the anime (the manga is much more light-hearted), but I'm counting it. ... I don't know why, but I felt like continuing this line of discussion. I think Batman is a good example of how to handle a more 'human' hero, whereas Spiderman for example is a horrible way. Batman has never seemed like a whiner to me, but Spiderman has. Batman's grief and search for vengeance are tangible...you're able to sympathize even if you haven't exactly become a vigilante in real life, you can easily see why he does the things he does. With Spiderman, even though this isn't totally the case, I always felt like he became a superhero once he got the powers just because it seemed like the logical thing to do: you get superpowers, so you might as well become a superhero. The whole reluctant hero thing with him doesn't seem to fit, because outside of his uncle being killed by a criminal, I don't see the same level of underlying desire to fight crime in him that I do with Batman. With Batman there's no question he's going to continue to fight crime until he's dead. With Spiderman he's so wishy-washy and hot/cold on the idea of being the hero, you wonder how fucking much he really liked Uncle Ben anyhow.
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